NEW YORK — Some people see the glass as half full and some as half empty. Marc Shaiman is something else entirely.
âIâm not even happy with the glass,â he says with a laugh.
The award-winning Hollywood and Broadway composer and lyricist cheerfully likes to call himself an âEeyoreâ and âa card-carrying pessimistâ despite many of his biggest dreams coming true.
âJust as soon as something good happens, something badâs going to happen,â he tells The Associated Press. âI am always waiting for that other shoe to drop, and it inevitably drops.â
His career and personal ups and downs are on full display this winter with Tuesday's publication of his memoir, âNever Mind the Happy: Showbiz Stories from a Sore Winner,â which is filled with funny stories from a man who has helped fuel popular movies and musicals for decades.
âIâve been lucky enough to do a lot and Iâve been lucky enough to have an outrageous longevity. I thought, âLet me write it down, finally,ââ he says.
Tales of Bette Midler, Stephen Sondheim and the âSouth Parkâ guys
The memoir charts the New Jersey-born musical prodigy's rise from Bette Midler's musical director in his teens to scoring such films as "Sleepless in Seattle" and "Mary Poppins Returns" and Broadway shows like "Hairspray" and "Catch Me If You Can."
He's worked with Billy Crystal, Martin Short, Luther Vandross, Raquel Welch and Rob Reiner, sparred with producer Scott Rudin and had a spat with Nora Ephron ("I'm certain she's in heaven, telling all the angels she doesn't like harps," he writes). He also played at the White House and was a force in the early days of "Saturday Night Live."
There was the time in 1999 that he got legendary composer Stephen Sondheim so high on pot at a party in his apartment that the iconic composer collapsed three times. "I've killed Stephen Sondheim," he thought to himself. (Sondheim asked him to tell the story only after he died.)
He tells the story of hearing Meryl Streep repeatedly working on a song for "Mary Poppins Returns." Moved, he and his writing partner, Scott Williams, knocked on her door to say how impressed they were by her dedication to rehearse. "Well, guys, fear can be a powerful motivator," she told them.
âIâm mostly just trying to show how human everyone is â even these bold-faced names,â Shaiman, a two-time Grammy winner and two-time Emmy winner, says in the interview.
Shaiman isn't above mocking himself, as he does for becoming an inveterate pothead and cocaine user. âI should go into the Guinness Book of World Records for being the only person who put on weight while being a cocaine addict,â he writes.
There are stories about how a misunderstanding over an unpaid bill with Barbra Streisand left him shaken for days and the time he insulted Harry Connick Jr. (Both would later reconcile.)
Then there was the time he found himself dressed in an ostentatious powder-blue suit and feather boa alongside Matt Stone and Trey Parker on a red carpet for âSouth Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncutâ â they were dressed as Gwyneth Paltrow and Jennifer Lopez.
One lesson from Shaiman: âShow upâ
One lesson Shaiman hopes to teach aspiring artists is to go for it: âWhat you can do is show up. Show up to everything. Say yes to everything because Iâm a good example of that.â
He tells the story of Midler organizing a world tour and offering his services but being told she was only hiring local Los Angeles people. So he withdrew all his money from the bank, hopped on a flight from New York and called her from a phone booth: âI'm in L.A. Where's rehearsal?â
âEven if you donât get the job, keep your spirit up because someone in that room is going to remember you for another thing. Thatâs the thing I think to really learn from the book,â he says.
As a sign of Shaiman's pull on Broadway, the audiobook will feature performances by Crystal, Short, Matthew Broderick, Megan Hilty, Nathan Lane, Katharine McPhee and Ben Whishaw, among others.
âI had included a lot of lyrics in the book and then I suddenly realized, âWhat, am I going to sing them all or speak them all?â So I started calling friends, some who had sung those songs and some who had sung the demos,â he says.
Crystal met Shaiman at âSaturday Night Liveâ and quickly hit it off. In a separate interview, Crystal called his friend funny and quick to improvise, with an almost photographic memory of music.
âLook at his range: From âMiseryâ to the beautiful score from âThe American President.â And I brought him in on â61(asterisk)â and then the âMr. Saturday Nightâ score,â Crystal says. âHeâs just so uniquely talented as an artist.â
Despite being a Tony Award winner in 2003 with âHairsprayâ and earning two other nominations for âCatch Me If You Canâ in 2011 and âSome Like It Hotâ in 2023, Shaiman is flustered by Broadway.
His last two shows â âSmashâ and âSome Like It Hotâ â earned great reviews but closed early, a victim of high costs and fickle audiences.
âI wish the shows kind of stunk and I could go, âOh, man, that really stunk. People are really not liking this,ââ he says. âBut when theyâre enjoying it?â
Shaiman really has nothing else to prove and yet he laughs that his skin has gotten thinner â not thicker â over the years. He'd like to take it easy, but that's not what Eeyores do.
âI donât know how well Iâll actually do with retirement, but Iâd like to give it a try.â
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